"There are about a dozen. Call them 'The Dirty Dozen.'"
Update: Meade said...
Right. Instead of "dirty dozen", when asked, I should have said, 'there are probably about a dozen. Call them the dirty dozen. No, call them the meta dirty dozen.' Plus J.
Meta Dirty Dozen does sound sort of cool, provided J is not part of it.
Those of you saying that 12 seems like too many... remember: "if your comments are deleted and you don't understand why, write to Meade" and no one is emailing Meade like that. So I say we're applying the policy right. We know what we're doing. And if you are requested to email about it and you don't do that, it is evidence of bad faith. If you've gotten a personal request from me or Meade and your response is to flout it, for example, by lecturing us about somebody else who you think is worse, that's quite telling.
"I have here in my hands, the list of 12..." Joseph McCarthy
And, as all dudes know, the Dirty Dozen had a noble cause and killed many German Officers. I'm on the list and damn proud of it! I see myself as Posey!
Finally, law professors aren't big on facts, just the law. I don't believe Trooper ever commented about "Bloody Sunday." I coined the phrase. Maybe the professor can't tell Eyetalians apart, they all smell alike, "like garlic and salami." But, it's an honor to be confused w/ Trooper...except for the Yankee horseshit.
And, as all dudes know, the Dirty Dozen had a noble cause and killed many German Officers. I'm on the list and damn proud of it! I see myself as Posey!
Finally, law professors aren't big on facts, just the law. I don't believe Trooper ever commented about "Bloody Sunday." I coined the phrase. Maybe the professor can't tell Eyetalians apart, they all smell alike, "like garlic and salami." But, it's an honor to be confused w/ Trooper...except for the Yankee horseshit.
Update IV:
An earlier comment today by Crack over at my twin's place. It says a lot and it says it well (although let me confirm EBL is not Trooper York):
The Crack Emcee said...
An earlier comment today by Crack over at my twin's place. It says a lot and it says it well (although let me confirm EBL is not Trooper York):
I'm rambling here:
I don't know what to make of the new comment policy. And, since I was away when whatever happened with Troop, I can't speak on that - except to say he's questioned my posts about you, so I have a hard time understanding how he can be J. On the other hand, there's been a commenter on my blog, named the "Evil Blogger Lady," and Troop's the first follower on his/her blog, so anything could be happening.
What I can say is this:
I've challenged you on several grounds - ethics being one of them - because, when you're all over the board ethically, anything ugly is possible to happen. Letting standards slip, in that manner, is what makes neighborhoods into ghettoes and then killing fields - I've seen it. Some applaud you for, say, defending a pro-life position in posts, knowing you're pro-choice. I'm not one of them. Such a scattershot approach invites anger because there's no clear through-line and, in our society today, we desperately need one. And, yes, being a law professor doesn't help, making you appear to either denigrate (or at least not appreciate) the position as loftily as we may see it:
You're pretending to be some chick who's a law professor when, in reality, you're a law professor acting like some chick.
I see it as the Boomer/Hippie/NewAge thing - the ethos, that comes with those roles, to mischievously question even those things that, once mature, you should know are important (and settled) enough to be done questioning. A fetus is a baby - and we don't kill babies. That kind of thing.
Anyway, I don't know if any of that makes much sense, but, just off the top of my head, that's what I'm seeing/feeling. YMMV.
Also, I liked the blog better with Troop (and Shouting Thomas) than without him, but I understand that may be out of your/Meade's hands. One other thing, though:
You and Meade (and Glenn) never apologize for fucking up. But you're human - you do fuck up. Admitting your lapses in judgment can go a long way towards humanizing you in this clearly distancing format. You have power, however limited. This blog, like Instapundit, doesn't exist in a whatever-I-want-to-do vacuum - it affects lives. Copping to going off the rails occasionally is helpful. You don't lose points for it, but gain them. It may not seem like it, immediately, but some things don't.
I guess that's all I have left to say,...
I don't know what to make of the new comment policy. And, since I was away when whatever happened with Troop, I can't speak on that - except to say he's questioned my posts about you, so I have a hard time understanding how he can be J. On the other hand, there's been a commenter on my blog, named the "Evil Blogger Lady," and Troop's the first follower on his/her blog, so anything could be happening.
What I can say is this:
I've challenged you on several grounds - ethics being one of them - because, when you're all over the board ethically, anything ugly is possible to happen. Letting standards slip, in that manner, is what makes neighborhoods into ghettoes and then killing fields - I've seen it. Some applaud you for, say, defending a pro-life position in posts, knowing you're pro-choice. I'm not one of them. Such a scattershot approach invites anger because there's no clear through-line and, in our society today, we desperately need one. And, yes, being a law professor doesn't help, making you appear to either denigrate (or at least not appreciate) the position as loftily as we may see it:
You're pretending to be some chick who's a law professor when, in reality, you're a law professor acting like some chick.
I see it as the Boomer/Hippie/NewAge thing - the ethos, that comes with those roles, to mischievously question even those things that, once mature, you should know are important (and settled) enough to be done questioning. A fetus is a baby - and we don't kill babies. That kind of thing.
Anyway, I don't know if any of that makes much sense, but, just off the top of my head, that's what I'm seeing/feeling. YMMV.
Also, I liked the blog better with Troop (and Shouting Thomas) than without him, but I understand that may be out of your/Meade's hands. One other thing, though:
You and Meade (and Glenn) never apologize for fucking up. But you're human - you do fuck up. Admitting your lapses in judgment can go a long way towards humanizing you in this clearly distancing format. You have power, however limited. This blog, like Instapundit, doesn't exist in a whatever-I-want-to-do vacuum - it affects lives. Copping to going off the rails occasionally is helpful. You don't lose points for it, but gain them. It may not seem like it, immediately, but some things don't.
I guess that's all I have left to say,...
1. lawnboy spinelli
ReplyDelete2. RAA EBL
Can you name the other 10 of your fellow heros?
Actually I was waiting for you to give me the list of the Dirty Dozen.
ReplyDeleteEmail me.
ReplyDeleteMeade:
ReplyDeleteI am not Trooper, or J, just EBL. Is there mockery of recent events? Yes. Is it being done out of bad faith? No.
You should laugh and move on. Because I assure you wrecking your place is not my intention (and I doubt it is the intention of most of the others you deem to be the "Dirty Dozen"). The one commentator who truly acted in bad faith was J. And the comment about a dangerous neighborhood vs. a tyranical HOA community is a good one. There is a middle way. J should not have been deleted for being stupid, but for actively attacking other commentators. Personal attacks, not just disagreements over ideas. J was not clever, or funny, or interesting. He was mostly boring with occasional unacceptable bouts of abuse and creepiness.
I truly, in all sincerity, wish you both success and happiness in the future.
And you might remember that the Dirty Dozen were in the end the good guys.
Right. Instead of "dirty dozen", when asked, I should have said, 'there are probably about a dozen. Call them the dirty dozen. No, call them the meta dirty dozen.' Plus J.
ReplyDeleteMeade said...
ReplyDelete"Is everyone agreed on who "The Dirty Dozen is"? Do all of them even know who they are?"
If you have to ask, you might be one.
Half-kidding.
Seriously, email me, if you've been deleted by mistake.
12/22/11 12:27 PM
Meade, I am hoping you see the humor in all of this, but try not to get too J. Edgar Hoover/Nixonish with this stuff...
But talking about J:
J said...
You're lying as usual Meade. Your inane comments are here, and you're deleting intelligent ones.
It's unlikely you've ever written a coherent essay in your life.
Another petty tyrant of the combox (as Mad-town homies realize)
12/22/11 12:31 PM
Seriously your list should be a short one. A lot shorter than a dozen.
Another petty tyrant of the combox (as Mad-town homies realize)
ReplyDeleteIs that projection on J's part or he saying he's from Madison? That could explain the creep's interest in some of my stuff.
Alright, it's been over an hour and no email. I was hoping you would reveal yourself to be someone else but I now know who you really are: Mary.
ReplyDeleteAnd the plot thickens, this is fascinating stuff .
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